I don't think cutting the prizemoney for 350m is the answer, its already less than the 440m+ prizemoney

You can't disadvantage people.

I think the only way is to direct them to longer distances by outgrading them over the shorts

Our dogs are already out graded too sharply as it is ? You can win 4 races with a juvenile chaser and be thrown in FFA , by being placed in non grades 1-4 ? Hows that welfare !

Of course prize money determines your placing of a dog , and it wont put a dogs career in danger by outgrading it with seasoned professionals

You need to rear a dog for 2 years and train a dog to understand the above and realise how detrimental it is and our grading is already an abortion , to hint at purposely doing it is a misunderstanding it doesnt already happen and its zero welfare for the chaser

Bring back wins per track so Poeple travel for wins and everyone gets their fair share

I didn't say that Nathan

Over 350m if it can with 4 races as a juvenile, then the natural progression would be to try and go past 400m and drop in grade again to 5th grade

Thats why I suggested a separate distance category to grade those dogs, as a means for them to drop back to 5th grade and be against dogs of similar ability

I only meant it as a way of enticing connections to try their dogs beyond 350m

About 70% of races in NSW are now below 440m

Don't you think thats an alarming trend for the sport?

The other solution is to totally cut out all racing under 400m except up the straight

Ok, instead of having a dig at me, why don't you come up with a real solution to try and enforce trainers to get their dogs to run 440m or more

I am only throwing up suggestions not casting aspersions on any persons knowledge about the sport

I felt the same way as Nathan did when I first looked at your post and I don't think he was too harsh on you.

Anyway, A trainer has to travel further now to `place' their dog(s). This is a direct result of closing down tracks. That's why we should be all advocating for tracks to remain open such as Wauchope. Mudgee wasn't harming anyone inside the horse track, but it's forever gone, while horse racing is flourishing. Televised race meetings everywhere.

It's only an impression, but I do believe we are getting more dogs going over further than 400m in some regions. Perhaps we should be increasing p/m further for races over the longer distances.

Trainers will come because that's why they do it.... to chase the monies. You can race a short course dog twice a week e.g. 288m and 272m provided they're not injured and races are suitable.

Hasn't its been tried already. Or should it be expanded?

Prizemoney is already higher for the 440m-564m and 564m plus distances

My issue was to not lower the prizemoney for short coursers as I didn't think it was fair to do so. I was just looking at an alternative way to handle it.

However, seeing you put it that way, maybe that is the solution instead, not my favoured one, so that they can race twice a week and trainers have no need to trial their dog or prepare it for further.

I've got a short courser right now, she races twice every 10 days or so, its good to get that early money. Sure, she will be out-graded when she meets the really sharp sprinters.

We are trying her over 400m now to see if she can handle it while she is still in 1-3 win range, as there is no grading relief until she gets 440m or above.

The latest survey that Peter Davis put out on the Greyhound Recorder showed there was that 68% of races in NSW under 440m

Its getting bigger not smaller.

Maybe Mark Wilcox is right , the prizemoney for sub-440m should head the same way and pass all that money saved to the longer distance races.

That will never happen

You will be inviting the Greens and the other nutcase antis tied to the Labor Party to finish off greyhound racing.

They will finish what Mike Baird tried to do

I just gave u the complete insight to what work has gone into these chasers over years and what is already happening in the grading department for years

To persuade people out of 300 mtr racing and up to 400 mtr through harsher grading isnt the answer , due to the current grading be as harsh as it already is !
Youll find this out when your new chaser is in against 30k winners for 40 starts and she has merely had 10 starts and won 7k

The reason our chasers are lumped into non grades and having 4th graders race FFA dogs is due to not enough dogs for the grader to appropriately place them , having yet another set of grades for 250-349 then 350 - 430 is impossible!

Set the money more appropriately and youll see results , a specialist FFA short courser should earn good coin ! But a 3rd -5th grade shouldnt earn up to a measly $200 less
Seriously is that the price difference for the top echelon short course chaser to a 5th grader or a battlers race ? I beg to differ personally .

The money needs to to be tweaked for distances 250 -349 mtr and in this also better allocated to what grade , then 350-440 mtr and inside this grading from top to bottom with money representing the grades more appropriately!

Take $400 off the battlers and 5th grade 250- 349 mtr racing , inject that into the next distance range up and watch everyone line up for 400 mtr racing again !

You will then see a swift change in distances chosen simply to maximise the most earn appropriately for your dogs ability

Its too across the board at present

Ps . The only winner out of harder grading is the elite trainers with the best dogs ! All owner breeders/ trainers and hobbiests get crucified and theyre are the ones putting in the most effort from grass roots up !

Unless you breed own and rear your own its a hard thing to comprehend or swallow asking yourself pup to take on a ex FFA on drop back rule .

Disgusting

I think you are on Planet Fairyland pal

I don't agree with Ray Hadley very often but his views on GWIC are "SPOT ON"

The sooner they disappear the better !

I have been there and done thst already

Agree with you Grant

A Yamanto type complex on the Sydney outskirts would be ideal IMHO

Ray (Webster) did you know that the N.S.W. Coalition tried to Ban Greyhound racing ?

Ray (Webster) are you aware that the majority of Land in N.S.W. is actually Crown Land yet the N.S.W. Coalition is yet to find a new Home for Greyhound Racing in N.S.W.

When if ever will N.S.W. Participants get a fair share of the Pie ?