Thx for that Andrew. Fair call re Penske. Sand Man isn't in x in KMM's ped and there in lies the danger in saying things like Banjo may not go well with KMM bitches because with 911 Sand Man is in x thru CJ Ima Bahama which is in 911's dams pedigree. You may well be doing Banjo an injustice by calling it that way. Too honest for your own good Andrew. haha. cheers. ========================================================== I know genius breeder Kevin Burns told me he used to like crossing New Tears with Light of Fire so you may be re right Mick with a similar cross between AA/Collision working, however I wld then take it to the next step and try to work out why that's the case. If you can answer that question, that wld be extremely interesting reading. Re LOF/Blue Girl Vane that was because Jarrad's line has thrown AA which was by LOF, and Blue Girl Vane recreates LOF at a very high percentage through different individuals other than LOF himself...........iow Blue Girl Vane is recreating a very similar intensity to what LOF did with the same damline. Similarly if I had a bitch from your line Mick I wld be trying to recreate another Bombastic Shiraz because he produced Bit Chili, or another Where's Pedro because he produced Double Twist through different individuals to Bombastic & Pedro in the hope of that line giving up another Bit Chili or Double Twist type. I wldn't bother about anything else. That wld be my focus. Now does Collision do this thru any of his dams to Pedro or Bombastic at a sufficiently high percentage (above 88%) ? CLICK HERE approx 66% ; CLICK HERE approx 60%; so not high enough %'s there for my liking and that now eliminates you from breeding a possible champion from a Bombastic/ Where's Pedro perspective. It may still produce a champion if you do this mating but it wld likely be to another dog that was previously successful with your girls damline. That's my theory anyway. Lets look at the next dam up collisions sire line Tranquil Flame CLICK HERE not much there at all ; CLICK HERE again nothing much here esp when you consider Wav Supreme, Sabby's Image & Bowetzel are only cross duplicated in the top half of the pedigree, AND now that likely eliminates you from breeding a possible invitation class type from a Bombastic/ Where's Pedro perspective. The further up the sireline you go the lesser the intensity UNLESS you have a full blood relation attached directly to the sires sire line.......so you are looking at above 94% to 100% range(previously explained in the 'Trends in Breeding' topic). Similarly you can put in the next two dams Centrefire and Starfire Lady going up Collisions sireline with Bombastic and Pedro and see how they match up. Keep in mind you are now likely looking at mixed 4/5 & Grade 5 competitors unless they are above 94%.........that's from a Bombastic and Pedro perspective only. That's my thought process when I go through a pedigree. I just like the figures on my side. Then there's x path, xy, outcross positioning, sex balancing, reverse pedigrees etc. cheers.
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